Email Record --- Finding Per Larsen in Norway

This is the actual email record of Peter Larson (Per Larsen) and his family being found in Norway.

From: "Reina" <nukilik@kpnmail.nl
Subject: Re: [NOR]   Peter Larson
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:38:05 +0200
References: <df17.18237850.39f1ccba@aol.com
In-Reply-To: <df17.18237850.39f1ccba@aol.com

Whow.......Vicky.......You are AMAZING.....I really think you have found them!

Yes, indeed, me too I had noticed before this family in Trysil, because there have been a Berthe born febr 1846 and a Per Larsen in 1844 same parents. But I did not see the name Norgaard.

But now you have shown us:
1. Skjærberget and the name "Norgaarden"
2. Peter Larsen born 15 april 1844 PLUS a reference in USA as his birthday 10 april 1844
3. the name Trysil
4. Berthe born febr 1846 in Trysil same parents
5. Peter's emigration from Trysil to Oslo and Berthe's idem

I am sure you have found the right parents in Norway: Lars Larsen Skjærberget + Kirsti Pedersdr in Trysil, Hedmark!!

Really nice work Vicky!!1

Jerrald will be very happy!

Best whishes
Reina

----- Original Message -----
From: <Joyhart@aol.com
To: <norway@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [NOR] Peter Larson

Reina and Jerrald,

One of Peter Larson's great-grandsons sent me his obituary (with some discrepancies?). The great-grandson had no further info on Peter's father, except that he might have been called "Lars Norgard."

Henderson (MN) Independent newspaper, January 1927

The late Peter Larson of Jessenland, of whose demise mention was made in this paper last week, was a native of Norway, having been born in Trysk, April 10, 1844. He came to this country in 1869, locating at Minneapolis, where he worked at the gunsmith and blacksmith trades until 1874 when he came to Henderson and then to Jessenland, following his profession of watchmaker. December 26, 1882, he married Miss Anna Marmorine, in Jessenland, and they made their home with the Marmorines where they resided since. Peter Larson, was one of the old school of upright citizens whose words were as good as their bonds, and he made many warm friends. He took an active part in public affairs of the township and held the office of town treasurer for 25 years and acted as treasurer of of his school district for 29 years. He was a member of Henderson Lodge No. 80. A.F. & A.M. for over forty years.  He did not come to town in recent years owing to rheumatic trouble, but was able to be around most of the time, about home, until a week before his demise when he suffered an attack of acute bronchitis and, although he received the best of care and medical attention, gradually became weaker and finally succumbed to the inevitable.  The funeral was held on Friday of last week and was largely attended.  The services were according to Masonic rites. The bereaved widow and the following children survive: Mrs. Ben Peterson, of Clearbrook, Minn.; Mrs. Esdras Beliveau, of Henderson; A.H. Larson, of Minneapolis; Elmer Larson who is at home; R.V. Larson, of Pequot, Minn.; and W.C. Larson, of Chicago.  The following relatives and friends from a distance were in attendance at the funeral: Alvin H. Larson, of Minneapolis; Raymond V. Larson, Pequot; Miss Margurieta Umland, of Cloquet; Miss Emma Marmorine, of Minneapolis, C.F. Hillstrom, Alfred Hillstrom and Stephen Smith, of Belle Plaine.  The Independent joins with a wide circle of friends of the bereaved in extending condolence.
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I looked high and low for "Trysk" in Norway with no luck!! I decided to try "Trysil/Trysild" in Hedmark County, which in 1865 had several Skjærberget farms with alternate names (Nordgaarden, Larses, Ønset, etc.).

Here's my "hunch."

"Per Larson" smed=smith (blacksmith or locksmith, etc.) in 1865 Trysil.  One of the neighboring farms is Skjærberget AKA Norgaarden:
http://tinyurl.com/24vs5vk

The 1900 Jessenland Twp. Sibley County, MN census lists Peter Larson, born April 1844. Peer Larson, birth April 15, 1844, son of Lars Larson Skjærberget and Kirsti Pedersdatter, entry #36:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil in Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 4 /1 (1842-1850), Birth and baptism records 1844, page 34-35.
Permanent pagelink:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9002&idx_id=9002&uid=ny&idx_side=-21

Per Larson Skjærberget leaving Trysil Parish, June 20, 1869:
http://tinyurl.com/277btkd

Peer Larson, smed, July 1869 leaving Oslo for St. Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/26vtlze

 The 1870, 1875 and 1880 Jessenland Township, Sibley County, MN censuses list "Peter Larsen" living with his future in-laws, Olaf and Mary/Maria Marmorine. (His obit states he came to Sibley County in 1874.)

Possible Naturalization records:
First Name Last Name
PER LARSON
Location: SIBLEY
State: MINNESOTA
Reel #: 1
Vol #: A
Code #: 1
Page #: 292
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First Name Last Name
PETER LARSON
Location: SIBLEY
State: MINNESOTA
Reel #: 2
Vol #: C
Code #: 9
Page #: 8

In 1900, Peter's sister "Bertha Norgard" was living with them. It gives her birthdate as Feb. 1846, and immigrating in 1866 (same year given for Peter; probably incorrect for both).

Berthe Larson, birth Feb 12, 1846, daughter of Lars Larson Skjærberget and Kirsti Pedersdatter, entry #16:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil in Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 4 /1 (1842-1850), Birth and baptism records 1846, page 62-63.  Permanent pagelink:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9002&idx_id=9002&uid=ny&idx_side=-35

Closest match I could find for her in 1865 Trysil. Berte Larsdatter, unmarried servant, age 19, at the Sletten farm:
http://tinyurl.com/2u3sb2d

Berthe Larsdatter (born Skjærberget) migrating to Christiania in 1880 (birthdate matches above):
http://tinyurl.com/34qho96
Or the actual churchbook page indicates she left Trysil for Christiania in 1874, right-hand page, entry #12:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1874-1880), Migration records 1880, page 329.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6054&idx_id=6054&uid=ny&;
idx_side=-311
(The same year, an Ole Olson NORGAARDEN, born Skjærberget, left for America.)

Maybe this is her in the 1895 Minneapolis census, indexed under “Berta Norgaand,” born about 1845 Norway:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1058&;
iid=MNV290_67-0144&fn=Berta&ln=Nordgaand&st=d&ssrc=&pid=771517

The 1894-95 Minneapolis directory lists a “Bertha L. Norgor,” dressmaker, living at the same address as the above Berta. I think they're one and the same.

1910 Twp #141, Oliver County, ND census:  “Bertha L. Norgaar,” living next to widow Ingeborg Sletten. I believe Ingeborg is Bertha Norgaar/Nordgard and Peter Larson's sister. She married Torgal Sletten and they emigrated from Trysil in 1886 with children Ole and Karen Elvida (they later had a daughter Thea).

Jerrald, If am I on the right track as this Bertha being "your" Peter Larson's sister, then this is probably her North Dakota death certificate information:

NORGAAR, BERTHA S. [*] Died: 12/20/1914 Oliver County, ND; resident of Oliver County.  Born: 02/12/1846  [* I've run across many incorrect transcriptions with the letter “L” being transcribed as “S” and vice versa.]

Just my thoughts!! The above would need to be verified by descendants.

Vickie in MN

In a message dated 10/15/10 8:26:22 AM, Joyhart@aol.com writes:

Reina,

I also looked into Peter and Bertha Larson, but I came up empty-handed in finding them in the 1865 Norway census (under Larsen/Larson/Larsson/Norgard/Norgaard, etc.). More details are needed on these siblings!

The 1900 census states Anna (nee: Marmorine, daughter of Olaf and Mary) had borne 9 children and 8 were living - but 9 children were listed; in 1910, 7 of 10 children were living.  Children (and birth years according to 1900 Sibley County census; death years from the MN Death Cert. Index and/or cemetery records):

Emily 1882-1942 [married Ben Peterson]
Bertha b. September 1884
Halvor A. [AKA Alvin H.] 1886-1955
Elmer 1890-1984
Raymond V. b. Nov 1892
Mae Christine 1894 -1984 [married Raymond Beliveau]
Homer 1896-1910
Charles W. [AKA Walter Charles] 1899-1975
Lillian 1898 - 1903
I think they also had a daughter, Elizabeth (1888-1889). She was buried in the same plot as Homer and Lillian.

Peter Larson 1844-1926 buried Brown Cemetery, Henderson, Sibley County, MN.
Anna M. Larson 1861-1938 " " "
Some of their children are also buried there.

I've sent an e-mail to a gentleman who claims to be a great-grandson of Peter and Anna Larson. Hopefully, he'll send info about Peter's birthplace in Norway.

Vickie in MN

In a message dated 10/15/10 4:09:38 AM, nukilik@kpnmail.nl writes:

Hello Jerrald,

Thank you for your information. So I understand that Peter Larsen was age 56 in 1900 (so born around 1844 in Norway) and that he was married to Anna (Larsen) age 39 (so born around 1861 in Minnesota).

Peder was emigrated first to New York and he and his family lived in 1900 in Jessenland, Sibley Minnesota. The name of his children have been Emily O., Bertha, Halver A, Raymond, May, Charles, Homer, Lilian. I suppose all born in America. We do not look for them, only the names can be important to give cues for names in his family earlier in time.

Other household members have been August Marworin born 1877 and Bertha S. Norgard born 1846.

I suppose this Bertha S. Norgard is his sister, about whom you told us she came with Peder to U.S.A. (Bertha Larsen born feb. 1846 you said earlier).

We are only looking for the familybackground of Peder Larsen b. 1844 and his sister Bertha Larsen n. 1846 in Norway. Peder Larsen and his sister Bertha Larsen immigrated in 1866. 1866 is an early year, most emigration records start after abt. 1871 in Norway.

The name "Norgard" might give a clue: sounds Norwegian. What do you know about Bertha? Was she married with a man called "Norgard" or can Norgard be "her Norwegian name" ?

You may ask the list, the people at the list are really very helpful.

It looks important enough if the name "Norgard" could give a cue about Peder and Bertha's background.

Kind regards
Reina
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Original query:

I need some help finding Peter Larson parents and grandparent in Norway Peter was born 1844 Norway and immigration 1866. His sister Bertha Larson born
Feb 1846 come over with Peter.  Any help appreciate.

Jerrald Lloyd