Saturday, May 12, 2012

Trysil-slegter by: H. Nysaeter

On 1 December 2011, I sent out an email with this information on it.  There is a lot of family information to be retrieved from this book.

Hi, Everyone:

If you have not known this before, I tend to poke at Google and find things like this book.  I have sent out the site previously, but here it is again (it is too big a book to send via email):

http://books.google.com/books?id=k30vAAAAYAAJ&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=Trysil-slegter&source=bl&ots=P7Y3q0Ki0C&sig=HoWx7zosJzpsJo1T998zqOzXhVk&hl=en&ei=i6XbToPrHaP00gHn-e3UDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CF0Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Trysil-slegter&f=false

I have tried to pry some information out of the book and this is what I found:

If someone who reads Norwegian wanted to try to locate additional information, please tell me if what I have done is accurate.  Some of the relationships offer clues that I could not sort out easily.  I think it is a good source of information and I would like to see if it helps in our filling out the Family Tree.

Regards,

Wayne

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Fortegnelse_over_de_aeldste_personer_i_Trysil
Trysil-slegter
by:  H. Nysaeter

It is a record of the oldest people in Trysil, Norway in the years around 1840 and there nearest ?? and successors ??

This list is the names that I have been able to gleen out of the above-titled book
The names to the left are as shown in our Family Tree.
The page numbers are the actual page numbers in the Trysil-slegter.
The names to the right are as shown in the Trysil-slegter.
Below each pair of names (in bold letters) is the relationship of that person to my great-great-grandfather, Lars Larsen Skjaerberget or Ole Torgel Sletten’s great-great grandfather, Ola Sørby Sletten

Oluf Nordgaard --- Page 29 --- Oluf Nordgaard, Skjaerberget
Lovise Lien fra Saetre --- Page 29 --- Lovise
Oluf is Lars’ grand nephew
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Peder Pedersen Aas Sørhusaas --- Page 43 --- Per Aas
Eli Sorby Sletten --- Page 43 --- Eli Sletten
Eli is Ola’s daughter

Den, som nu eier gaarden, er altsaa Per Bakken, Torberget, eller Per Aas, som han nu kalder sig. Han er gift med Eli Sletten.

The, who now owns the farm, is thus per hill, Torberg, or Per Aas, which he now cool down. He is married to Eli Sletten.

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Halvor Jonsen Kveen --- Page 54 ---  Halvor Kveen
Pernille Sorby Sletten --- Page 54 --- Pernille fra Sletten
Pernille is Ola’s daughter

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Per Gjermundsen Sørby --- Page 74 --- Per Gjermundsen Sørby
Kersti Olsdatter Kvernmo --- Page 74 --- Kerste
Per is Ola’s father

MASSIVE FAMILY ON PAGE 74 THAT ARE NOT DOCUMENTED YET

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Ola Halvorsen Strandvold --- Page 78 --- Ola Strandvold
Gullaug Sørby Sletten --- Page 78 --- Gullaug Sletten
Gullaug is Ola’s daughter

Marthe Halvorsdatter Strandvold --- Page 78 --- Marthe Strandvold
Per Torgalsen Sætre Torgals Nordby --- Page 78 --- Per Sætre, Nordby
Per is Ola’s wife’s nephew

THERE ARE OTHERS ON PAGE 78

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Ola Torgalsen Saetre Torgals --- Page 126 --- Ola Torgalsen
Marte Sørby Sletten --- Page 126 --- Marte Sletten
Marte is Ola’s daughter
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Ingeborg Larsdatter Skjærberget --- Page 127 --- Ingeborg Larsdatter, n.  Skjærberget
Ole Olsen v. Sætre Torgals Nybergsund --- Page 127 --- Ola Skjærberget
Ingeborg is Per's aunt

Ola Nordgaard --- Page 127 --- Ola Nordgaard
Helene Unknown --- Page 127 --- Helene Vestsjøberget
Ola is Per’s cousin

Oluf Nordgaard --- Page 127 --- Oluf Nordgaard
Lovise Lien fra Saetre --- Page 127 --- Lovise Lien
Ola is per’s 1C1X cousin

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Email Record --- Finding Per Larsen in Norway



This is the actual email record of Peter Larson (Per Larsen) and his family being found in Norway.

From: "Reina" <nukilik@kpnmail.nl
Subject: Re: [NOR]   Peter Larson
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:38:05 +0200
References: <df17.18237850.39f1ccba@aol.com
In-Reply-To: <df17.18237850.39f1ccba@aol.com

Whow.......Vicky.......You are AMAZING.....I really think you have found them!

Yes, indeed, me too I had noticed before this family in Trysil, because there have been a Berthe born febr 1846 and a Per Larsen in 1844 same parents. But I did not see the name Norgaard.

But now you have shown us:
1. Skjærberget and the name "Norgaarden"
2. Peter Larsen born 15 april 1844 PLUS a reference in USA as his birthday 10 april 1844
3. the name Trysil
4. Berthe born febr 1846 in Trysil same parents
5. Peter's emigration from Trysil to Oslo and Berthe's idem

I am sure you have found the right parents in Norway: Lars Larsen Skjærberget + Kirsti Pedersdr in Trysil, Hedmark!!

Really nice work Vicky!!1

Jerrald will be very happy!

Best whishes
Reina

----- Original Message -----
From: <Joyhart@aol.com
To: <norway@rootsweb.com
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [NOR] Peter Larson

Reina and Jerrald,

One of Peter Larson's great-grandsons sent me his obituary (with some discrepancies?). The great-grandson had no further info on Peter's father, except that he might have been called "Lars Norgard."

Henderson (MN) Independent newspaper, January 1927

The late Peter Larson of Jessenland, of whose demise mention was made in this paper last week, was a native of Norway, having been born in Trysk, April 10, 1844. He came to this country in 1869, locating at Minneapolis, where he worked at the gunsmith and blacksmith trades until 1874 when he came to Henderson and then to Jessenland, following his profession of watchmaker. December 26, 1882, he married Miss Anna Marmorine, in Jessenland, and they made their home with the Marmorines where they resided since. Peter Larson, was one of the old school of upright citizens whose words were as good as their bonds, and he made many warm friends. He took an active part in public affairs of the township and held the office of town treasurer for 25 years and acted as treasurer of of his school district for 29 years. He was a member of Henderson Lodge No. 80. A.F. & A.M. for over forty years.  He did not come to town in recent years owing to rheumatic trouble, but was able to be around most of the time, about home, until a week before his demise when he suffered an attack of acute bronchitis and, although he received the best of care and medical attention, gradually became weaker and finally succumbed to the inevitable.  The funeral was held on Friday of last week and was largely attended.  The services were according to Masonic rites. The bereaved widow and the following children survive: Mrs. Ben Peterson, of Clearbrook, Minn.; Mrs. Esdras Beliveau, of Henderson; A.H. Larson, of Minneapolis; Elmer Larson who is at home; R.V. Larson, of Pequot, Minn.; and W.C. Larson, of Chicago.  The following relatives and friends from a distance were in attendance at the funeral: Alvin H. Larson, of Minneapolis; Raymond V. Larson, Pequot; Miss Margurieta Umland, of Cloquet; Miss Emma Marmorine, of Minneapolis, C.F. Hillstrom, Alfred Hillstrom and Stephen Smith, of Belle Plaine.  The Independent joins with a wide circle of friends of the bereaved in extending condolence.
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I looked high and low for "Trysk" in Norway with no luck!! I decided to try "Trysil/Trysild" in Hedmark County, which in 1865 had several Skjærberget farms with alternate names (Nordgaarden, Larses, Ønset, etc.).

Here's my "hunch."

"Per Larson" smed=smith (blacksmith or locksmith, etc.) in 1865 Trysil.  One of the neighboring farms is Skjærberget AKA Norgaarden:
http://tinyurl.com/24vs5vk

The 1900 Jessenland Twp. Sibley County, MN census lists Peter Larson, born April 1844. Peer Larson, birth April 15, 1844, son of Lars Larson Skjærberget and Kirsti Pedersdatter, entry #36:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil in Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 4 /1 (1842-1850), Birth and baptism records 1844, page 34-35.
Permanent pagelink:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9002&idx_id=9002&uid=ny&idx_side=-21

Per Larson Skjærberget leaving Trysil Parish, June 20, 1869:
http://tinyurl.com/277btkd

Peer Larson, smed, July 1869 leaving Oslo for St. Paul:
http://tinyurl.com/26vtlze

 The 1870, 1875 and 1880 Jessenland Township, Sibley County, MN censuses list "Peter Larsen" living with his future in-laws, Olaf and Mary/Maria Marmorine. (His obit states he came to Sibley County in 1874.)

Possible Naturalization records:
First Name Last Name
PER LARSON
Location: SIBLEY
State: MINNESOTA
Reel #: 1
Vol #: A
Code #: 1
Page #: 292
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First Name Last Name
PETER LARSON
Location: SIBLEY
State: MINNESOTA
Reel #: 2
Vol #: C
Code #: 9
Page #: 8

In 1900, Peter's sister "Bertha Norgard" was living with them. It gives her birthdate as Feb. 1846, and immigrating in 1866 (same year given for Peter; probably incorrect for both).

Berthe Larson, birth Feb 12, 1846, daughter of Lars Larson Skjærberget and Kirsti Pedersdatter, entry #16:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil in Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 4 /1 (1842-1850), Birth and baptism records 1846, page 62-63.  Permanent pagelink:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9002&idx_id=9002&uid=ny&idx_side=-35

Closest match I could find for her in 1865 Trysil. Berte Larsdatter, unmarried servant, age 19, at the Sletten farm:
http://tinyurl.com/2u3sb2d

Berthe Larsdatter (born Skjærberget) migrating to Christiania in 1880 (birthdate matches above):
http://tinyurl.com/34qho96
Or the actual churchbook page indicates she left Trysil for Christiania in 1874, right-hand page, entry #12:  Source information: Hedmark county, Trysil, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1874-1880), Migration records 1880, page 329.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6054&idx_id=6054&uid=ny&;
idx_side=-311
(The same year, an Ole Olson NORGAARDEN, born Skjærberget, left for America.)

Maybe this is her in the 1895 Minneapolis census, indexed under “Berta Norgaand,” born about 1845 Norway:
http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/?htx=View&r=an&dbid=1058&;
iid=MNV290_67-0144&fn=Berta&ln=Nordgaand&st=d&ssrc=&pid=771517

The 1894-95 Minneapolis directory lists a “Bertha L. Norgor,” dressmaker, living at the same address as the above Berta. I think they're one and the same.

1910 Twp #141, Oliver County, ND census:  “Bertha L. Norgaar,” living next to widow Ingeborg Sletten. I believe Ingeborg is Bertha Norgaar/Nordgard and Peter Larson's sister. She married Torgal Sletten and they emigrated from Trysil in 1886 with children Ole and Karen Elvida (they later had a daughter Thea).

Jerrald, If am I on the right track as this Bertha being "your" Peter Larson's sister, then this is probably her North Dakota death certificate information:

NORGAAR, BERTHA S. [*] Died: 12/20/1914 Oliver County, ND; resident of Oliver County.  Born: 02/12/1846  [* I've run across many incorrect transcriptions with the letter “L” being transcribed as “S” and vice versa.]

Just my thoughts!! The above would need to be verified by descendants.

Vickie in MN

In a message dated 10/15/10 8:26:22 AM, Joyhart@aol.com writes:

Reina,

I also looked into Peter and Bertha Larson, but I came up empty-handed in finding them in the 1865 Norway census (under Larsen/Larson/Larsson/Norgard/Norgaard, etc.). More details are needed on these siblings!

The 1900 census states Anna (nee: Marmorine, daughter of Olaf and Mary) had borne 9 children and 8 were living - but 9 children were listed; in 1910, 7 of 10 children were living.  Children (and birth years according to 1900 Sibley County census; death years from the MN Death Cert. Index and/or cemetery records):

Emily 1882-1942 [married Ben Peterson]
Bertha b. September 1884
Halvor A. [AKA Alvin H.] 1886-1955
Elmer 1890-1984
Raymond V. b. Nov 1892
Mae Christine 1894 -1984 [married Raymond Beliveau]
Homer 1896-1910
Charles W. [AKA Walter Charles] 1899-1975
Lillian 1898 - 1903
I think they also had a daughter, Elizabeth (1888-1889). She was buried in the same plot as Homer and Lillian.

Peter Larson 1844-1926 buried Brown Cemetery, Henderson, Sibley County, MN.
Anna M. Larson 1861-1938 " " "
Some of their children are also buried there.

I've sent an e-mail to a gentleman who claims to be a great-grandson of Peter and Anna Larson. Hopefully, he'll send info about Peter's birthplace in Norway.

Vickie in MN

In a message dated 10/15/10 4:09:38 AM, nukilik@kpnmail.nl writes:

Hello Jerrald,

Thank you for your information. So I understand that Peter Larsen was age 56 in 1900 (so born around 1844 in Norway) and that he was married to Anna (Larsen) age 39 (so born around 1861 in Minnesota).

Peder was emigrated first to New York and he and his family lived in 1900 in Jessenland, Sibley Minnesota. The name of his children have been Emily O., Bertha, Halver A, Raymond, May, Charles, Homer, Lilian. I suppose all born in America. We do not look for them, only the names can be important to give cues for names in his family earlier in time.

Other household members have been August Marworin born 1877 and Bertha S. Norgard born 1846.

I suppose this Bertha S. Norgard is his sister, about whom you told us she came with Peder to U.S.A. (Bertha Larsen born feb. 1846 you said earlier).

We are only looking for the familybackground of Peder Larsen b. 1844 and his sister Bertha Larsen n. 1846 in Norway. Peder Larsen and his sister Bertha Larsen immigrated in 1866. 1866 is an early year, most emigration records start after abt. 1871 in Norway.

The name "Norgard" might give a clue: sounds Norwegian. What do you know about Bertha? Was she married with a man called "Norgard" or can Norgard be "her Norwegian name" ?

You may ask the list, the people at the list are really very helpful.

It looks important enough if the name "Norgard" could give a cue about Peder and Bertha's background.

Kind regards
Reina
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Original query:

I need some help finding Peter Larson parents and grandparent in Norway Peter was born 1844 Norway and immigration 1866. His sister Bertha Larson born
Feb 1846 come over with Peter.  Any help appreciate.

Jerrald Lloyd

Our Family Search Began in 1983

The following email was written prior to our trip to ND, SD, and MN to meet our new cousins the Sletten and Opheim families.  After my visit with cousins in 1983, I wrote to all of my known family and listed everything I knew about the family.  I asked for help.  I only got two responses.  My father gave the most detail in a letter written on 6 November 1984.  A lot of things have happened, but this is the earliest beginnings.

9 June 2011

The Special Visit to MN in 1983 and the Mystery of the Shoeboxes of "stuff" about Ben Peterson and Emily Olivia Larson Peterson

I got to thinking about the upcoming trip and remembering a very, very special visit I had there with my family in 1983.  Erik was 16 and Leif was 15.  The Oshkosh, WI Airshow was the event and was very important to the boys, both of whom flew with two guys in Richmond who owned WWII combat aircraft.

I had an inspiration when I thought to call Shirley Arlene Erickson Molnau and ask if we could come and visit them.  It was 275 miles "out of our way" but I really wanted them to meet my family after being away from them for too long.  Shirley's mother Mildred is my father's sister.

Shirley said "yes" under one condition --- we had to stay awhile and get to know her sisters and her family.  She wanted to drag out the shoe boxes full of "stuff" about our family.  We laughed about crazy family lore about where we came from and what our ancestors were like (lots of stories there, but another time).  Shirley and her husband, DuWayne Edward Molnau, could not have been nicer to us.  I have no memory of how long we stayed.  I think we had a pop-up camper with us.  It could have been 8 hours or two days, but it was a good visit and a lot of fun for everyone.

My best memories are of an rhea, a South American version of an emu, taking one look at me from the fence and racing off down a row of corn with his body going "whack-whack" on the corn stalks.  Then there were the beautiful fancy chickens of all varieties.

That is where I got some of the letters between my father and my grandmother and my great-grandmother.  They even waved grandfather Emanuel Bernhart Peterson's death certificate in my face to prove that he did not have a hunting accident in Twin Falls while Emily was on holiday with the children in MN.  I wish I knew whether those shoe boxes had his actual full birth date in them.  All we need to crack the mystery of his family origins in the DAY of the month he was born in Sept 1870.

If anyone has a clue about where those boxes of mementoes reside today, please let me know.

Friday, May 11, 2012

Peter Larson of Trysil, Hedmark, Norway

How better to figure out how we got here than to start with my great-grandfather, Peter Larson.  He was born "Per Larsen" and changed his name to "Peter Larson" for some unknown reason.  This is his obituary with some additions based on new information:


Obituary of Peter Larson with additions

Per Larsen was born in Trysil, Hedmark, Norway on April 15, 1844, third of eight children born to Lars Larsen Skjaerberget and Kersti Persdatter Nyhushagen.  He came to this country in 1869, locating at Minneapolis, where he worked at the gunsmith and blacksmith trades until 1874 when he came to Henderson and then to Jessenland, following his profession of watchmaker.

December 26, 1882, he married Miss Anna M. Marmorine (daughter of Olaf Monsson Marmorine and Maja Stina Johansdotter of Henderson, MN), in Jessenland, and they made their home with the Marmorine family where they have resided since.  Known in this country as Peter Larson, he was one of the old school of upright citizens whose words were as good as their bonds, and he made many warm friends.  He took an active part in public affairs of the township and held the office of town treasurer for 25 years and acted as treasurer of his school district for 29 years.  He was a member of Henderson Lodge No. 80, A.F. & A.M. (Ancient Free and Accepted Masons) for over forty years.

He did not come to town in recent years owing to rheumatic trouble, but was able to be around most of the time, about home, until a week before his demise when he suffered an attack of acute bronchitis and, although he received the best of care and medical attention, gradually became weaker and finally succumbed to the inevitable on December 28, 1926.

The funeral was held on Friday of last week and was largely attended. The services were according to Masonic rites.  The bereaved widow and the following children survive:  Mrs. Emily Olivia Larson Peterson of Clearbrook, MN, Mrs. Mae Christine Larson Beliveau of Henderson, Mr. Alvin Halvor Larson of Minneapolis, Mr. Elmer Larson who is at home, Mr. Raymond Victor Larson, Sr. of Pequot, MN, and Mr. Walter Charles Larson of Chicago.

He was preceded in death by three of his daughters (Mrs. Bertha L. Larson Lewis, Miss Elizabeth L. Larson, and Miss Lillian Larson) and by one of his sons (Mr. Homer Larson).

The following relatives and friends from a distance were in attendance at the funeral:  Alvin H. Larson of Minneapolis, Raymond Victor Larson of Pequot, Miss Margurieta Umland of Cloquet, Miss Emma Marmorine of Minneapolis, C.F. Hillstrom, Alfred Hillstrom, and Stephen Smith of Belle Plaine.

The Independent joins with a wide circle of friends of the bereaved in extending condolence.

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In addition, the following grandchildren were born to Peter Larson (born Per Larsen):  George Peterson, Elmer Bernhart Peterson, Carl Victor Peterson, Kenneth Emanuel Peterson, Doris Jean Emily Peterson, Mildred Evelyn Peterson, Leslie Peterson, Gladys Lillian Peterson, Robert Schroeder Lewis, Enid Frances Larson, Raymond Victor Larson, Jr., Anna Mae Beliveau (adopted), Betty Lou Jean Beliveau (adopted), and Raymond T. Beliveau (adopted).

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The above obituary is an expansion upon the original, which was published in the Henderson Independent.  There is a story behind one element of the original that is worth noting here.  In the original, his birthplace is noted as Trysk, Norway.  This misprint became a huge stonewall which was just recently broken down by an amateur genealogist looking at it with a fresh eye.

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Per Larsen was one of eight siblings.  Five of them remained in Norway.  Two of his sisters came to the United States and eventually settled in Oliver County, ND.  Beate Larsdatter never married.  Ingeborg Larsdatter married Torgal Sorby Sletten Innbygda (also from Trysil, Norway) and to them were born three children:  Ole Torgalson Sletten, Karen Elida Torgalsdatter Sletten, and Thea Elise Sletten.

Peter Larson --- Picture taken about 1905

Peter Larson and Anna M. Marmorine Larson


The Beginning of Our Journey to Trysil, Norway

On 14 May 2012 we leave for Norway.  It has taken almost 30 years to get to this point and only in the last 15 months did we find the actual birthplace of our Peter Larson (Per Larsen) in Trysil, Hedmark, Norway.  This will be an attempt to not only document how we got to this point, but also will document our adventures both in Norway and in Sweden.

With the help of our friend Sam Odom, we got to the airport in plenty of time.  First time to use my shiny new passport.  No trouble getting to Dulles Airport in Washington or to Manchester, England on United Airlines.  We picked up some "duty-free" alcohol in Dulles.  You have to put it in a special plastic bag that is sealed.  They deliver it to your gate.  Follow the rules.  Do NOT open the bag.  Pretty clear, at least to us.

Now we are in Manchester, England and we have to leave security and go up and down to get to the new gate and check back through security.  Plastic sealed booze in hand.  Then came the two young men from the Baptist school in Virginia, bottles proudly in hand, no sealed plastic bag.  I am standing behind them thinking, "This is going to be interesting.  They need to start drinking quickly, before they get to those two ladies!"  Too late.  Their "special bottles" (high-end, not the cheap stuff) were confiscated.  Wonder how they wrote that up in the Baptist daily.

Then Erik and I got through with no difficulty.  Patty, however, was called back to be patted down.  There was something suspicious in her bag.  "Is that a teapot in there?" asked the nice lady behind the x-ray machine.  Actually, it was the head of her tripod.  It is so specialized that she had been told to hand-carry it through security in case the checked luggage got stolen.

The flights were long and cramped, but we seemed to get through OK.   Now on to SAS for our flight to Oslo.  Erik's and my cousin, Lisbeth Tannåneset Bye, is waiting for us with our new traveling companion, a troll named Per Larsen after my great-grandfather.  I asked for a name I could pronounce.  Hope great-granddaddy Peter Larson does not mind.  Per Larsen changed his name to Peter Larson when he came to the US in 1869,  just to set the record straight.

Lisbeth was grinning at least as widely as we were when we finally got through the gate.  Some people say that Norwegians do not like to hug.  As we were to find out, starting with Lisbeth, that is not the case.  Between the tears of joy, I was thinking, "How could we have waited so long to find each other?"  In a fraction of a second, our lives were joined as if we had known each other forever.  Thank you, Lisbeth, Ragnar, Morten, and Jonas!